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aVoid
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Joined: July 4th, 2007, 3:31 pm Posts: 3650 Location: Southern Sweden
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 Women of the AGM
So, I've been thinking and discussing a lot about women in metal lately, very much because of the rise and hype of Gallhammer. And I've realised that, despite pushing many other boundaries, what we deal with here isn't really pushing any gender-boundaries. As within the rest of metal, women in avantgarde metal seem to be mostly clean vocalists (and, just as avantgarde metal in general, way sovereign - Synne Soprana in ITW, the former singer in Atrox, etc).
Am I completely wrong, have I missed a big bunch of creative geniuses devoid of phallus? Or am I right, is Agm also a boys club, just like the rest of the metallic world? If I am wrong, please give me examples of creative females within avantgarde metal.
(Note, for the sake of clarity: I regard myself, in some definitions of the word, a feminist. Focusing on gender is, quite often, counterproductive, at least in music since it often becomes a question of minorities, which I'm not very fond of.)
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| January 8th, 2008, 10:55 am |
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Tentakel P.
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Joined: August 5th, 2007, 1:26 am Posts: 1521 Location: Hamburg
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Björk! She´s definitely metal, just watch the Video to "Triumph of a heart"
Heavy drinking, partying and blood...
No really, I can´t think further than Anneke van Giersbergen right now (at least in AGM), and there you have it, clean vocals...
But besides AGM there are som Girlie-bands like Drain or Astarte. Not to mention female fronters in Arch enemy, Holy Moses, Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult, former Sinister, and up until recently my dear friends of Sufferage.
Oh and Tori Amos did her cover of Slayer´s "Raining Blood"! 
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| January 8th, 2008, 12:30 pm |
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aVoid
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Joined: July 4th, 2007, 3:31 pm Posts: 3650 Location: Southern Sweden
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Seattle-based death/doom trio Grey are really heavy. Beats the living crap out of most; like a less groovy Electric Wizard kindof.
I hope Gallhammer open up for more women in extreme music.
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| January 8th, 2008, 1:50 pm |
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Ulv
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Joined: July 11th, 2007, 7:22 pm Posts: 696 Location: In the middle of the Balkans
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If Dementia Absurda is considered extreme halfmetal music then there you ahve more woman in such thingz, cuz one member is female!
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| January 8th, 2008, 2:10 pm |
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revon
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Joined: August 3rd, 2007, 11:05 pm Posts: 281 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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The five piece Japanese prog/avant metal Gonin-Ish features a woman. She sings in soprano and growls like hell as well.
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| January 8th, 2008, 7:45 pm |
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Ulv
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Joined: July 11th, 2007, 7:22 pm Posts: 696 Location: In the middle of the Balkans
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OG?! Link.....a link...link maybe, please linx *being anxious*
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| January 8th, 2008, 7:56 pm |
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alliaphagist
Joined: July 23rd, 2007, 10:35 pm Posts: 203 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Carla Kihlstedt does violin and vocals in Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.
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| January 8th, 2008, 8:43 pm |
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revon
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Joined: August 3rd, 2007, 11:05 pm Posts: 281 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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http://amaterase.blogspot.com/2007/06/gonin-ish.html
Okay, she's not soprano but she has definitely a high voice.
The music is some mix of death metal, progressive metal and neo-classical metal.
Note that the growlings are pretty interesting. I bet some of you will hate it.
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| January 8th, 2008, 10:05 pm |
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Tentakel P.
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Joined: August 5th, 2007, 1:26 am Posts: 1521 Location: Hamburg
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Great link, Revon. Sounds exactly what I am looking for these days. Though there is influence of older SIGH coming through, but that is not a bad thing, isn´t it? 
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| January 9th, 2008, 4:32 am |
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AntiCitizen-One
Joined: November 25th, 2007, 6:57 am Posts: 75 Location: Mexiko
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what about Ihriel?
_________________ "So you're climbing upwards through structures of metal and glass
Subconsciously trying to reach the roof, but somehow there's always one more floor"
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| January 9th, 2008, 8:03 am |
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AntiCitizen-One
Joined: November 25th, 2007, 6:57 am Posts: 75 Location: Mexiko
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and leilindel [not sure how to write it] from uneXpect?
_________________ "So you're climbing upwards through structures of metal and glass
Subconsciously trying to reach the roof, but somehow there's always one more floor"
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| January 9th, 2008, 8:04 am |
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aVoid
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Joined: July 4th, 2007, 3:31 pm Posts: 3650 Location: Southern Sweden
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Yep, and whatever her name is in Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. Few and far between.
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| January 9th, 2008, 11:28 am |
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Tentakel P.
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Joined: August 5th, 2007, 1:26 am Posts: 1521 Location: Hamburg
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AntiCitizen-One wrote: what about Ihriel?
Ah! How could we forget her? Yet, I daresay that Ihsahn did the composing for Peccatum, and Star Of Ash (though great) is not Metal... Which reduces her Metal-contribution to her voice once again... Or am I wrong?
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| January 9th, 2008, 12:59 pm |
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revon
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Joined: August 3rd, 2007, 11:05 pm Posts: 281 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Tentakel P. wrote: Great link, Revon. Sounds exactly what I am looking for these days. Though there is influence of older SIGH coming through, but that is not a bad thing, isn´t it? 
Of course not.
And yes, Leilindel is a fantastic girl, she got on screaming on concerts. 
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| January 9th, 2008, 8:24 pm |
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Trollthor
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Joined: January 9th, 2008, 11:45 am Posts: 488 Location: My brains (hurts)
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What tabout Madder Mortem? One of my faves since the debut album and surely no gothic-to-please-all-softy-cliches-metal like the many Theatres of Crematoric Tristesse... I wouldn't call Agnete's voice too "clean", but rather powerful and often fistinyourface-aggressive.
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| January 9th, 2008, 10:47 pm |
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